happy birthday, baby
they’ve got nothing on you ^ㅠ^
Clouds (ft. Jay Park & Clara) - Dumbfoundead
Yo, everybody works hard for their goals to achieve
But like the ocean is sea, man, the motion is free
So nothing ever adds up the way we want it to
I guess my math teacher was just a substitute
Everybody hits a rough patch turbulence in the sky
Life’s a cow I made a burger
And I’m serving it with some fries
Gotta make do with the cards that are dealt
And though it’s hard as hell
I know that God will help
Cause although I live in Seattle
It’s not always gonna rain
There’ll be some sunny days coming up this way
Everybody’s wanting to see me struggling
Running away from pain
But I know the wondrous things are coming to visit again someday
So no worries I just stand here with a smirk on my face
Although I know some people out there throwin dirt on my name
But it’s all good
Still show em some love
Cause unlike that girl from the movie
I ain’t holdin no grudge
i got that “taylor” body girl you know that i gotcha
you can call me new moon because i orbit around ya
another event of historical significance took place on this date in 2010, when Jay Park uploaded a new video on youtube.
i get approached a lot being who i am
and i gotta lot girls wishing i’m there man checkit/
and if i’m wrong with ya i dont wanna be right
i gotcha gigglin like everydays a comedy night
i’m a correct answer never do you wrong/
and i trust yah even though you’ve be gone/
but dont blame for getting little jealous/
its just hard when your talking to them fellaz/
i got that “taylor” body girl you know that i gotcha/
you can call me new moon because i orbit around ya/
your my world my everything, the only thing between our face is just that spaghetti string/
i’m faithful wont pull a kobe bryant on you/
its a jungle wont be “lion” pull a “tiger” on you
even know the exact shade of your eyes
my hearts ice your number one like yuna kim/
i used to be a boy
that had many girls
all over the world
but they got nothing on you babe
its forever just you and me
for all of eternity/
i know your stressing but i’m confessing baby your the only girl i want
you can be my bestfriend we can play x-men
you can be just i can be cyclops
cause i dont wanna end up like everyone else
hurtin all alone all by myself
this is just something that i’ve never felt
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As much legitimacy that poster’s Korean-American background holds among international fans, doesn’t it strike you odd at all that so many Korean fans (nearly 100,000 according to the Daum Cafe count) who too can understand the exact tone and words used during the conference would be so offended? And as many of them have stated in different corners of the Internet, they were not all Jaebeom fans. In fact, some of them were among the most ardent non-Jaebeom member fans. As one fan writes on the Playwares.com board, “진짜 저도 다른 분들이 2PM멤버들 욕할때 쉴드치면서 그럴애들 아니라고 믿었는데 후기들 보니까 그게 아니네요 … 나 진짜 살면서 이렇게 황당한건 처음이다. 나 이제 눈물도 안나옴 지금 부글부글 끓는다. 살면서 친구들한테도 이렇게 큰 배신감 느껴본적도 없었어. 믿 었었는데 이렇게 크게 뒤통수를 치는구나.” (I really believed that when other people were insulting 2PM, that they were not really like that and shielded them. But after listening to the conference, that wasn’t true at all…. This is the first time I ever felt so dumbfounded. Right now, I’m not even crying— I’m simply boiling in anger. I never felt so angered by even friends before. I really believed them, but they really have back-stabbed us.”
I too listened and read the transcripts of the conference. I too wanted to believe and wish the best for 6 members. I, as a Korean raised in a Korean household with expectations on behavior and conduct, too was appalled.
You’re right in that 2PM was polite… most of the time. Of course, they have to be. They know that they can’t rage in the conference without severe repercussions. But despite their carefully selected words, there were lapses in decorum. While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that this reveals their inner deceitfulness, they were —at the very least— still offensive.
Take for the example of the older female fan. Regardless of what you think the proper age of a 2Pm should be, Korean etiquette demands that you treat your elders with respect. And, yes, she did ramble on somewhat incoherently. But while you take this to be a meaningless rant, I take it as a fan who is so distraught by the situation that, when given the opportunity to ask 2PM herself, had lost her composure from her severe hurt.
How did Taecyon respond? “질문이 뭐에요 확실히 못알아듣겠네요 다시 한번 해주세요..” Or, “What is the question? I can’t quite understand. Please ask again.” I think even in English, it’s somewhat belligerent to answer thus without perhaps a, “I beg your pardon,” or an apology of some sort. And without going into an argument over proper Korean etiquette, I know this as much— if my mother or father ever heard me respond to an elder in that manner, they would make me apologize to the person immediately and then apologize themselves for not having raised me properly.
And more than being disrespectful, Taecyeon’s response showed that he was less interested in the pain of a 2PM fan, than getting this Q&A session over. Instead of hearing her cries for help and reason, all he heard was “blah blah blah.” And the fact that Junsu had to step in immediately and respond, “이런.. 결정을 내린 모습을 저희가 어머님께 보여드려서 죄송하구요,” ([pause] We are very sorry for the fact that we had to show ourselves having made such a decision…” only goes to show that even his band mate Junsu was shocked by Taecyeon’s response and felt the need to ameliorate the situation.
This response has already become far too much longer than I expected, so I’ll leave with the other most salient remark. There is no possibly way that you could argue the phrase, “깽판이라도 칠까요?” (should we have made asses of ourselves?) is polite. There is a reason that overnight ChanSeong’s nickname has become Hwang-KkaengPan.
As I said, the boys were for the polite, for the most part. But that’s a given and to be expected. It’s the lapses that reveal more and have far more reaching repercussions.
P.S. Didn’t the 49bananas poster admit that she only listened to a portion? Admittedly, 2PM were incredilby polite the first hour or so, but it’s only as the conference dragged on that they began to lose composure.
reposted with permission.